DW: David Wilcock
CG: Corey Goode
DW: All right, welcome to the show. I'm David Wilcock. And we are absolutely having fun here. This is all new information, even for people who think they know it all. I think we're just peeling away the layers of the onion here. And it gets more and more interesting as we go. I'm here with Corey Goode. And we are discussing insider information that he gained through his work in the Secret Space Program, or what's often abbreviated to SSP. Corey, this Secret Space Program, how does something like this get started? If our conventional technology seems to be so primitive as far space travel is concerned, did the space program actually have some help? Was there some outside assistance that allowed it to develop this far at such an early time in history?
CG: Actually, the reason there's such a wide range in technologies in the Secret Space Program and what we have down here is that this is a complete breakaway society.
DW: What does a breakaway society mean?
CG: It is a society that is so divergent from the one that it came from that it's a completely different society that runs on totally different technology, different social dynamics, different control systems, that are unrelated to the ones that it came from before. It broke away. And it's now existing separate from.
DW: What might be an example of a different social dynamic?
CG: Well it's definitely more of a controlled, totalitarian regime.
DW: Really?
CG: Yeah, yeah. The current era breakaway civilization really began in Germany, as far back as the '20s, but especially in the '30s. There were some of the German secret societies that were doing a lot of really interesting work. They were some of the first that didn't separate science and what our mainstream science considers esoteric spirituality kind of topics. They intertwined them. And they had some groups that were doing channeling, trying to contact groups from other worlds. And they were also scouring the Earth for texts-- ancient texts from the East that had talked about ancient Vimana and other craft that they hoped that they could get information from to engineer craft from.
DW: One of the most contentious pieces of research that I came across dealing with German occult societies was apparently one of the top occultists in the time, who later advised Hitler, saw a talk by Gurdjieff. And Gurdjieff described this grand hypothesis of a symbol that was showing up, a sacred symbol, literally all over the world. All these different ancient cultures had this symbol that the Hindus called the "sah-wah-STEE-ka," or swastika. Do you think that the Germans in these occult societies, by seeing this almost worldwide prevalence of one symbol, were they reconstructing what they felt was the traces of a worldwide ancient advanced civilization of some kind?
CG: I don't know that for sure. But I know that as far back as the late '20s, and through the '30s, some of these secret societies were already well into expeditions all across the world, looking for ancient texts and relics that they could start to piece information together to create technology from, modern technology from.
DW: Also I did a ancient aliens episode not too long ago on something called the German Roswell. And I'm wondering if you'd ever heard of that.
CG: I believe it's 1936, a crash in the Black Forest.
DW: Right, on Eva Braun's family's land, apparently. And she later became Hitler's wife.
CG: I read that there was a crash and that there was technology recovered in the glass pad. But most of my knowledge goes to the contact that was made through the channeling, where they made contact with another civilization, and ended up arranging meetings with them and also, through their expeditions, ended up making contact in the Himalayas with the ancient breakaway civilization that a lot of people call the Nordics that they started to work with. They were working with these two different groups that helped them put this together.
DW: One of the most common things the critics keep saying is Corey has no proof. But when you're describing channeling, this is something that people can go and read for themselves. It wasn't all kept secret, right?
CG: No, a lot of this is out in mainstream. And people, I think, have written books and stuff about.
DW: So this is the Vril Society--
CG: The Vril Society.
DW: --Maria Orsic.
CG: Right.
DW: Can you tell us what you know about the channeling, like did they form a contact with some sort of extraterrestrial group?
CG: Yes, they made contact with one of the Draco Alliance groups. And it was when they drew a picture of the face, a lot of people today say it looks like the Gray, or the Reptoids, which look very much like the Grays, except they're reptilian looking.
DW: Was that group here already before they made contact? Or did the contact draw them over to our solar system?
CG: The Draco, according to the glass pad-- smart glass pad-- had been here at least 375,000 years. And they considered Earth theirs.
DW: What do they look like? Where are they from? What's their story?
CG: Well the Draco are-- most people picture them as only these large reptilian group. But the Draco Alliance is made up of a lot of different beings. Most of them have some sort of reptilian blood in them, some sort of reptilian genetics. And I guess you could say they're very genetic purists. They like to have beings involved in their alliance that have some sort of reptilian genetics. But there have also been other insectoid-type beings that have been associated with the Draco Alliance.
DW: When you say reptilians, you're talking about a humanoid body?
CG: Right.
DW: But with a reptile-type appearance to it?
CG: Right. Reptilian skin, reptilian eyes, muscular build, reptilian disposition-- very aggressive-- and what a lot of people probably would a picture as a demon. That's probably where a lot of the demon and devil ideas came from, the way they were depicted in medieval art.
DW: And you also said Reptoid as if it was something different from reptilian. So could you explain the difference?
CG: Yeah the Reptoids look-- they have a more narrow jaw, elongated head, and eyes that are larger. They look a lot like what people picture as the alien that you would see stamped on a sign at Roswell, the typical Gray.
DW: But there would be a difference between a Gray and a Reptoid?
CG: Definitely. And there are a whole lot of different beings that get thrown into the Gray category. There's a lot of confusion with Grays. There are quite a few different types of beings that get tossed into that category.
DW: So why is the term Draco being used for these people?
CG: I don't know the genesis of the name. I don't know if the name is something that came from them or comes from a more ancient derived manner. I don't know where the actual name comes from. I have heard all of the stuff that's on the internet about the Draco star cluster and that kind of stuff. But I don't know for certain.
DW: But the term Draco sounds a lot like dragon.
CG: It does.
DW: And Dracula, I guess, would be another similar thing.
CG: But I don't know which-- the chicken or the egg, I don't know which came first.
DW: This obviously starts to get immediately into the David Icke kind of stuff. To your personal knowledge, are there people on Earth that are reptilians that shape shift to look like human beings?
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