Even We Don't Know What the Phenomenon Is
Lehto Files:
Even after 34 years in the CIA with access to classified UAP programs, Jim Semivan admits: "We don't know what the phenomenon is."
In this eye-opening conversation, former CIA Operations Officer Jim Semivan shares why the intelligence community remains baffled by UAPs despite 80 years of study. As co-founder of To The Stars Academy and a veteran of the National Clandestine Service, Jim offers an unprecedented insider's perspective on humanity's most perplexing mystery.
🎯 Key revelations from this discussion:
🔹 Why his personal UAP encounter in the 1990s changed everything
🔹 The real reason presidents don't get full UAP briefings
🔹 How "the phenomenon" defies our understanding of physics and consciousness
🔹 Why disclosure is far more dangerous than the public realizes
🔹 The legacy programs that have studied this since the 1940s
🔹 How UAPs demonstrate capabilities that suggest reality itself is malleable
🔹 The "wicked problem" that makes this unsolvable with current science
🔹 Why even those with cosmic clearances say "we don't know"
Jim doesn't claim to have answers - instead, he reveals why even those on the inside are struggling to comprehend something that appears to be "classically indifferent" to humanity while demonstrating godlike capabilities.
"Disclosure means scaring seven-year-olds," Jim explains, as he walks us through why the government's 80-year silence might be more about helplessness than conspiracy.
This isn't another UFO interview. It's a philosophical exploration of what happens when the world's most powerful intelligence agency encounters something beyond human comprehension.
Chapters:
00:00 Opening - Jim's UAP Experience in the Early 90s
04:32 Finding the Invisible College Inside CIA
08:24 The Hole in His Neck & Medical Evidence
14:44 How the Government Has Handled UAPs Since 1947
19:52 The Problem with Catastrophic Disclosure
25:12 Why It's the Wickedest Problem - No One Knows
31:28 Disclosure Could Collapse Civilization
36:56 "They View Us as Property" - The Phenomenon's Nature
42:48 National Security & International Programs
48:00 The Phenomenon Controls Disclosure
53:12 Positive Effects of Disclosure
58:24 UAPs Beyond Nuts and Bolts - Consciousness
1:03:44 Intentions of the Phenomenon
1:11:56 Jake Barber's Skywatch Program
1:16:12 To The Stars Academy Origins
1:25:44 Advice for Podcasters & Researchers
1:36:32 Top CIA Stories & Career Reflections
1:42:36 What It Means to Be Human
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/Gb0QsymVCcs?si=KzP5IBhKcBblW_jN
I watch the video. This guy is stil indoctrinated in maintaining secrecy. The multiple agencies and religions are afraid of loosing g money if the truth is told to everyone . He has a lot of know but not tell names stories. Times gave changed. The Et that abduct oeooles are wrong. Those that use humans for slave trade, tests or food or genetic material are wrong. We have the right to live on this earth. Those that influence government people for their agendas are wrong. People need to know these facts to protect themselves from predators. There might be good ones but secrecy protects the bad ones. Under secrecy of men usually wrong things happen. Thin,k of mind wipe, 20 years and back programs, mk ultra programs harp, covid bioweapon.
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