Why Is This Ignored?
Former British Transport Police detective Gary Heseltine returns to the show to discuss the PRUFOS Police Database, a long-running archive of UFO reports involving serving and retired British police officers.
Gary explains how the database began, why police testimony matters, and what decades of reports may tell us about the wider UFO mystery. According to Gary, the database includes around 550 British police cases involving roughly 1,100 officers, with many involving more than one police witness.
We discuss the role of trained observers, the stigma that stops officers from speaking publicly, on-duty versus off-duty sightings, and some of the strongest cases Gary has collected, including multi-officer reports and incidents that remain difficult to explain.
If police officers, pilots, radar operators and other trained witnesses are taken seriously in every other area of life, why does that standard change when the subject is UFOs?
Timestamps:
00:00 Giant Craft Over Police Officers
00:57 Gary Heseltine Returns
02:59 What Counts As UFO Evidence?
07:36 The Best Evidence Cases
14:08 UFO Stigma And Double Standards
17:49 Can We Trust UFO Footage Now?
21:21 Why Police Testimony Matters
21:30 How PRUFOS Began
30:47 Gary’s Disclosure Film Idea
36:35 How Cases Enter The Database
41:20 Why On-Duty Sightings Matter
42:02 The 1901 Green Cylinder Case
45:00 Twelve Officers At Stonehenge
47:28 The Cosford Case: 26 Officers
49:02 Confidentiality And Reporting Forms
51:45 Police Officers Breaking Down
57:20 What The Database Reveals
59:30 Gary’s Gold Standard Cases
01:06:49 Drones, UFOs And Police Reports
01:09:24 Trump’s UFO Videos And Disclosure
01:15:20 Would The Media Finally Care?
01:17:16 A Call To Police Witnesses
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/bjFPPv8BksA?si=X-FEzuGqr7mEvUBK
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